Tuesday, August 17, 2010

Sarah Palin talks OTR with Greta Van Sustern & Continues to Lie

Last night Sarah Palin was a guest on Greta's show. They discussed drilling in ANWAR & Cordoba House, the Cultural Center that has suddenly become a controversy based on the hateful rhetoric of people like Sarah Palin & Pamela Geller of Atlas Shrugs.

This is the portion of the transcript from Greta's show regarding the Cordoba House discussion:

VAN SUSTEREN: We're back live in Wasilla, Alaska, with former governor Sarah Palin. And once again, President Obama has put himself in the middle of a controversy, this time over the planned mosque near Ground Zero in New York. Now, on Friday, President Obama came out strong in defense of Muslims building that mosque. Then Saturday, when things seemed to get a bit heated, the president clarified his statement, saying he would not comment on the wisdom on the decision to build a mosque there. Governor Palin?

PALIN: Well, you know, it sounds cliched to say that the president is disconnected from the American people on this issue, but how else do you describe it? He just doesn't get it, that this is an insensitive move on the part of those Muslims who want to build that mosque in this location. It feels like a stab in the heart to, collectively, Americans who still have that lingering pain from 9/11.

VAN SUSTEREN: So but where do you divide the line? Because you've got the 1st -- you know, they do have a -- there is a 1st Amendment to practice your religion. But the American people overwhelmingly say, well, you know, while they recognize the right, they just don't want the right exercised there.

PALIN: Well, exactly. And nobody argues that that freedom of religion that the Muslims have to build that mosque somewhere. However, there are 100 mosques already in New York. To choose and be so adamant about this exact location just a block or two away from 9/11, again, is that knife, it feels like. Now, if the purpose of this mosque, as we are lead to believe, is to create this tolerant environment, to avoid anything like a 9/11 ever repeating, you have to ask why didn't one of those 100 mosques already accomplish such a thing, allowing that tolerance and that acceptance of differing views? So I don't buy into that reason, that that's the purpose of this location being chosen.

VAN SUSTEREN: I'm curious what the sort of political effect will be because the statement the president made was not one that was sort of, you know, off-the-cuff, when he got sort of caught walking in some place and some reporter throws a question. He actually -- you know, he thought about it. He made a statement at a public dinner. So there must have been some discussion about it.

PALIN: There had to have been discussion about it. It had to have been a deliberative and well thought-out comment that he had made and then had to kind of clarify it the next morning. You know why he had to do such a thing, Greta? You twittered right after he had made that comment. You must have got your information from the press pool or something. You twittered that night, on a Friday night after he gave that comment to the Muslim community as he was celebrating the holy month of Ramadan in the Islamic community there in the White House -- you twittered what he had said.
And there across the Internet then, the ensuing explosion based on his comment -- I have not seen such a thing in the political debate and discourse in this country in quite some time. The next morning, he realized then, I think, Whoops, I better backtrack a little bit, and that's what he did the next morning.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I can't wholly take credit for it because what happens is, is that we get the White House press pool reports that come across the BlackBerry, and it happened late Friday night. And as luck would have it, I'm one of the -- I'm the late anchor. And so the minute that I got it, I just duped it onto Twitter and to GretaWire and people picked it up.

PALIN: And once you did, once people picked it up, though, we were appalled! We -- we were -- it was shocking because this leader of the free world has such power in his words. He should utilize that power in the words to represent the will of the people and not underestimate the wisdom of the people in America. And the overwhelming majority of Americans right now are saying, Mr. President, no, this hurts. This is a slap to those innocent victims who were murdered that day on 9/11. Build the mosque. Build it somewhere. Join the other 100 mosques that are already there in New York, but somewhere else that's less offensive and less provoking of more pain and -- and anger.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right, it's going to have political ramifications because we -- already Senator Harry Reid is disagreeing with the president, heading for the hills on it may be -- might be sort of a flip way to say it. But there's the political ramifications, and then there's also the real substantive problems (INAUDIBLE) What should the president do to try to sort of heal the wound? Because there is a wound in this country between many Muslims -- not all of them -- and many Americans -- not all of them -- with Muslims. I mean, how can we at least make some effort to fix this, put this fire out, rather than fuel it?

PALIN: Well, what the president seems to be suggesting is that everybody needs to be so tolerant of others' beliefs. That is fine. Then let him take that lesson and try to apply it to the debate on the other side if you were right now and talk to that imam, those others who want to build and choose that precise location for their mosque that is so offensive to so many people, and ask them to be tolerant. Ask them to understand America's feelings on this. And see if then the president can use some of his influence in a more positive, less divisive way. That's one way that he can help bridge this divide.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I think it certainly says the president doesn't pay attention to polls because I think (INAUDIBLE) American people overwhelmingly are opposed to it. I mean, I think the numbers -- I haven't seen the numbers today because I've been on the road with you -- actually, up in the air with you. But I haven't seen the numbers, but he certainly - - I mean, he's making decisions independent of the polls.

PALIN: No, I don't believe that.

VAN SUSTEREN: You don't believe it?

PALIN: I believe that's why he made his comment Friday night. He knew immediately because his advisers told him, You went too far on this. So the next morning, he tried to backtrack that. And now, curiously, he's not coming out and saying -- we want to know -- Mr. President, we have a right to know. What's your position on this? Again, we all know that there is that 1st Amendment right to build a church, a mosque where they want to, if it's legally appropriate. But what is your position on this? Should they? Do you support it? And we don't have the answer from him.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, if he wants to come to "On the Record," we'd be happy to ask him those questions.

PALIN: I hope he does!

VAN SUSTEREN: Anyway, Governor, as always, thank you. And (INAUDIBLE) look at this beautiful yard that she has here. And we're going to have much more with Governor Palin. You don't want to miss "On the Record" tomorrow and Wednesday. Governor Palin and her husband, Todd, are taking you to heart of Alaska so you can actually see for yourself this land, this ANWR area, this battle ground of the oil drilling war, make your own decision. We'll be back here tomorrow night and Wednesday night at 10:00 PM Eastern. We want you back here.

Transcript of OTR with Greta Van Sustern


First reaction to this whole piece is WTF!!??!!



Lets take this one at a time okay? That will make it so much easier to tear apart the lies of Sarah Palin & show how willingly Greta is to just toss her journalistic credentials out the window when it comes to Sarah Palin.

PALIN: Well, you know, it sounds cliched to say that the president is disconnected from the American people on this issue, but how else do you describe it? He just doesn't get it, that this is an insensitive move on the part of those Muslims who want to build that mosque in this location. It feels like a stab in the heart to, collectively, Americans who still have that lingering pain from 9/11.

President Obama did respond correctly because it is not his job to get into the middle of a situation like this. His job is to protect the constitutional rights of all Americans not just a select few. Unlike Sarah Palin who while pretending to be a governor felt that she could "take her governor's hat off" and then make a point of coming out for or against a project.

Our president knows his place and his job.

This cultural center is NOT a "stab in the collective hearts of Americans, it is only a political talking point being used by some shameless people who will pick up any subject they think is newsworthy to attack others in the hopes of scoring political points.

PALIN: Well, exactly. And nobody argues that that freedom of religion that the Muslims have to build that mosque somewhere. However, there are 100 mosques already in New York. To choose and be so adamant about this exact location just a block or two away from 9/11, again, is that knife, it feels like. Now, if the purpose of this mosque, as we are lead to believe, is to create this tolerant environment, to avoid anything like a 9/11 ever repeating, you have to ask why didn't one of those 100 mosques already accomplish such a thing, allowing that tolerance and that acceptance of differing views? So I don't buy into that reason, that that's the purpose of this location being chosen.

This shows the complete and utter lack of understanding of the issue not to mention it reaffirms the claim that this is based on religious intolerance & hate for anyone who is Muslim.

This spot is not near "9/11", as claimed. A stupid way to refer to Ground Zero. This "knife to the heart" thing is also being overplayed as well. This is also not a Mosque. It is a cultural center with planned space for:
recreation spaces and fitness facilities (swimming pool, gym, basketball court)
a 500-seat auditorium
a restaurant and culinary school
cultural amenities including exhibitions
education programs
a library, reading room and art studios
childcare services
a mosque, intended to be run separately from Park51 but open to and accessible to all members, visitors and our New York community
a September 11th memorial and quiet contemplation space, open to all


Now, to suggest that this center is not needed because there are other local mosques which have not been able to "improve" relations is a telling statement indeed. It suggests that this is all about religious intolerance, and equates all Muslims with terrorists.

Are we now to believe that all Christians are unable to preach against pedophilia due to the fact that priests have been molesting children for decades without being stopped? Or since preaching about abortion has not stopped it that they should stop preaching about how wrong it is? Or perhaps Christians should give up preaching about how sinful it is to be gay because that has not stopped people from being gay? Maybe we should stop all churches altogether since their purpose seems to have not worked for so many?


There is no instant response to teaching tolerance, it is a never-ending battle and as someone else just recently said (h/t to annes_123) the purpose of extending tolerance towards the mosque .. is NOT "here we will give you this now let's see what YOU do back... , indeed, it should be held up as a great idea, as we need more people teaching and practicing tolerance and encouraging diversity within our country.

PALIN: There had to have been discussion about it. It had to have been a deliberative and well thought-out comment that he had made and then had to kind of clarify it the next morning. You know why he had to do such a thing, Greta? You twittered right after he had made that comment. You must have got your information from the press pool or something. You twittered that night, on a Friday night after he gave that comment to the Muslim community as he was celebrating the holy month of Ramadan in the Islamic community there in the White House -- you twittered what he had said.
And there across the Internet then, the ensuing explosion based on his comment -- I have not seen such a thing in the political debate and discourse in this country in quite some time. The next morning, he realized then, I think, Whoops, I better backtrack a little bit, and that's what he did the next morning.



Yes Sarah, it was the fact that Greta twittered about this statement by the president on the Cordoba House that caused a huge uproar and demanded he clarify his statements. Heck, even Greta did not buy into that claim.

VAN SUSTEREN: Well, I can't wholly take credit for it because what happens is, is that we get the White House press pool reports that come across the BlackBerry, and it happened late Friday night. And as luck would have it, I'm one of the -- I'm the late anchor. And so the minute that I got it, I just duped it onto Twitter and to GretaWire and people picked it up.


The fact of the matter is that the President did not do anything more than reiterate what he had previously stated, and refused to give a personal opinion on the matter, which is exactly what he should do.

PALIN: And once you did, once people picked it up, though, we were appalled! We -- we were -- it was shocking because this leader of the free world has such power in his words. He should utilize that power in the words to represent the will of the people and not underestimate the wisdom of the people in America. And the overwhelming majority of Americans right now are saying, Mr. President, no, this hurts. This is a slap to those innocent victims who were murdered that day on 9/11. Build the mosque. Build it somewhere. Join the other 100 mosques that are already there in New York, but somewhere else that's less offensive and less provoking of more pain and -- and anger.


What Sarah Palin fails to realize is that the job of President of the United States is to protect all citizens and to defend the constitution of the USA rather than get into personal pissing matches.

He did his job, when asked to clarify his statement, he said he was not going to comment on his personal feelings regarding the wisdom of creating this cultural center at the specified location, rather that they had the right to do so based on the law. That is the exact right response for the president.

There is no slap at anyone, anywhere at anytime. Sarah Palin for all her complaints about wanting smaller government, less government intrusion, and demanding more states rights, now seems to want the federal government to get involved in a local issue. The local community has approved of this center and that is the bottom line. It is none of Sarah Palin's business, nor is it the business of anyone else. It has met all legal requirements, it has the blessing of the local community where it will be located, therefore all the blowhards in the rest of the country have no say in this matter.

"Do you favor or oppose the building of an Islamic community center and prayer space two blocks from the site of the World Trade Center?"

Manhattan:
Favor: 53%
Oppose: 31%
Unsure: 16%

Polling on Cultural Center


Over 50% of locals favor the idea. That speaks volumes.

PALIN: Well, what the president seems to be suggesting is that everybody needs to be so tolerant of others' beliefs. That is fine. Then let him take that lesson and try to apply it to the debate on the other side if you were right now and talk to that imam, those others who want to build and choose that precise location for their mosque that is so offensive to so many people, and ask them to be tolerant. Ask them to understand America's feelings on this. And see if then the president can use some of his influence in a more positive, less divisive way. That's one way that he can help bridge this divide.



Again, Sarah Palin seems to want the President of the United States to get involved in a local matter, where the locals have approved of something that outsiders don't like. Who cares if Sarah Palin and her ilk are offended by this cultural center? "America's feelings on this" don't matter on issues such as this. This is not a center being built by the terrorists. It is not a full blown Mosque, or anything other than a center for locals to use that they have approved of. The president is doing the right thing, and there is no need to "bridge a divide" that is located solely in the minds of the intolerant and bigoted.


In stating the she doesn't believe that the President was paying attention to the polls, Greta got this remark from Sarah,

PALIN: I believe that's why he made his comment Friday night. He knew immediately because his advisers told him, You went too far on this. So the next morning, he tried to backtrack that. And now, curiously, he's not coming out and saying -- we want to know -- Mr. President, we have a right to know. What's your position on this? Again, we all know that there is that 1st Amendment right to build a church, a mosque where they want to, if it's legally appropriate. But what is your position on this? Should they? Do you support it? And we don't have the answer from him.


Sarah has no right to know the President's official personal position on this matter because his personal position doesn't matter one single bit. That is where a lot of Sarah Palin's problems arise. She doesn't understand that there is a line drawn between professional/political and personal. His job is to protect the rights and freedoms of all of us regardless of what his personal beliefs are. His personal feelings don't matter any more than anyone else's do with the exception of the local community in regards to this matter.


I've grown very tired of this being an issue simply because there needs to be another political talking point by Sarah Palin and her ilk. Unless she is demanding that the federal government get involved in every local issue, which she has claimed is a part of the problem, then she needs to shut up and sit down.

8 comments:

  1. Thanks for posting the transcript EOY; listening to that screeching voice has become almost more than I can bear lately. I find it quite ironic that Palin cannot seem to grasp the fact that IF she could separate her personal views from her public views/opinions she would in fact be taken more seriously. As it is she is considered an embarrassment and a joke to everyone other than her die hard followers, who cannot think for themselves and believes every word she utters is the gospel truth. She seem totally unable to grasp the fact the on the one hand she is advocating the federal government is not needed in any aspect of American life, and then on the other hand she takes the idiotic position that the entire country has the right or the need to know President Obama's personal thoughts on the Mosque in New York. I live in hope that one day the world will no longer have to listen to this ignorant person

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  2. Two thumbs up EOY! Thank you for taking this interview apart and inserting your comments. They are right on!

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  3. If the president were out of touch where Cordoba House is concerned, he would have never issued any statement at all. He was upholding his oath of office. You're correct when you mention that the president's clarification on Saturday was for the purpose of reiterating what he had said about the Establishment Clause on Friday night and was a clear statement letting the citizens of NYC know that he will not allow his personal opinion to become a factor in determining where the cultural center will be built. Palin seems to forget that she chose a Friday to announce her resignation from her position as governor of Alaska. Of course, she can always find fault with what someone else does but never with her own actions.

    I've noticed over the last two years that Palin has no shame over the fact that she exposes how uninformed she is on every topic that she addresses. What also ticks me off is the obvious disrespect she has for President Obama. She mocked him for being a professor of constitutional law, and when he showed that he is indeed a constitutional scholar, she finds fault with that. That he ignores her is, I think, an excellent method of dealing with her. He doesn't have to cater to her stupidity in any way.

    She inserted herself into our gubernatorial election by flying here the day before the Republican Primary Runoff to stump for Karen Handel. It didn't help because Handel lost to the corrupt Nathan Deal. She's not as influential as she thinks she is. Many of the republicans here blasted her for interfering in their runoff election. Even the tea party suck up, Congressman Kingston, stated he'd wish she'd not insert herself into elections.

    As a retired social studies teacher, I can say without a doubt that Palin knows very little about the Constitution, American values and principles, the Founding Fathers, the way our government operates, or anything else to do with governing. She has shown her ignorance on these subjects repeatedly. I believe that the reason she has so many who take the same position as she does on the issues is because they need the same thing that she does: refresher courses in U.S. History, world history, international relations, world religions, and political science. Anyone who thinks/believes that any kind of emotion trumps constitutional mandates needs to take the course in political science first.

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  4. Well done EOY. I always enjoy your posts and comments.

    Pallottine

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  5. Thanks everyone. :)

    Sometimes you just have to get things off your chest! ;-)

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  6. I find it difficult to believe that Palin has a high school diploma, let alone a college degree, although the latter has shown to be questionable from posts on PG. University of Idaho states it has no one by the name of Sarah Heath who graduated in 1987. I checked with the administration's office where I graduated. It is listed under both my maiden name and married name as is custom with almost all universities and colleges across the country.

    Palin's ignorance regarding the Constitution has been evident from day one along with her ignorance on almost any given topic she is confronted with, like the mosque. She is simply using the mosque as a political tool. Nobody is foolish enough to believe that she truly cares about the feelings of anyone else involved in 9/11.

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  7. It is hard to believe that she has a diploma let alone a degree in Journalism/Communications as claimed, as she doesn't seem to have a grasp of even the basics when it comes to governing.

    She uses emotions instead of facts and logic to get her points across to people, and for some it works. Others prefer to deal in actual facts.

    The fact that she does seem so clueless makes me seriously wonder about her fans when they cheer her on, claiming she is so knowledgeable about subjects, when clearly she isn't.

    I guess for some emotions are more easily associated with rather than dealing with the the cold hard truth of reality and fact based information.

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  8. crystalwolf aka caligrlAugust 18, 2010 at 11:09 PM

    Excellent write up & critique. After reading the transcript, I was WTF too!
    She is crazy, insane, whatever you call it. And desperate for attention.
    Its so funny to see THEM (RWNJ) discuss how the President is not upholding the constitution...Was he not a constitutional lawyer? And a Professor?
    I seriously doubt Sarah graduated anything.
    We don't even know if she graduated high school?
    She is a idiot.

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